[nycphp-jobs] CTO/Lead Engineer Opportunity
Emeka Patrick
emekapatrick at gmail.com
Mon Apr 11 17:14:55 EDT 2011
Hear hear Brian! Whatever people might think of the company, their culture,
or whatever it is they're more than entitled to their opinion, but no need
to put them on blast, break them down, and criticize the character of their
current or future team members. It's a lovely day out and we should be
thankful that unlike in real life if you see something on here that you
disagree with or is ruining your day you can simply delete it! That being
said, let's keep it positive and supportive and stick to the purpose of
posts on this list, jobs, not hating!
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Brian O'Connor <gatzby3jr at gmail.com> wrote:
> This trend to reply to job postings keeps popping up roughly once a year,
> and it's really getting annoying. The whole basis for this complaint is
> that you don't like their culture or how they're choosing to advertise to
> their prospective talent.
>
> In addition, you've somehow jumped to the conclusion that anyone who is
> interested in this would have to be under 25; I don't see anywhere on the
> jobs mailing list that job postings need to be geared towards people over
> 25. Guess what? I'm 24, and I happen to like seeing job postings on this
> list. In addition, you've also assumed that if I happen to be intrigued by
> their job posting or should happen to want to work there, I have an 'alcohol
> abuse problem' and that I wouldn't be top talent. There are no basis for
> these claims. If you don't like the job postings that are coming to the
> list, just unsubscribe.
>
> I'm not subscribed to this list to see "witty" comments from people who are
> going to make bold claims about people and environments they're not a part
> of.
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Matt Juszczak <matt at atopia.net> wrote:
>
>> Kristina,
>>
>> You and I are almost always on the same page, but here I have to disagree
>> with you.
>>
>> Please read this article:
>>
>>
>> http://onstartups.com/tabid/3339/bid/13420/Startup-Culture-Lessons-From-Mad-Men.aspx
>>
>> I assure you... that company has some of the best talent working for it in
>> the area.
>>
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Kristina Anderson wrote:
>>
>> It may be becoming more common, but it's a total turnoff to most people.
>>> It doesn't seem like good business to limit oneself to hiring those under
>>> 25 and/or those with alcohol abuse problems, especially for a CTO
>>> position...? You're automatically excluding the best talent from the search
>>> from the get-go, and attracting the sort of employee who won't be able to do
>>> the work properly, thereby resulting in a poor product.
>>>
>>> There's no way a job post like that can yield any "top talent".
>>>
>>> On 4/11/2011 4:46 PM, Matt Juszczak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kristina,
>>>>
>>>> In their defense, this kind of agile, work hard, play hard environment
>>>> is becoming much more common. One of the largest start-ups I know gladly
>>>> gives free alcohol to their employees, and yes, they drink during the day.
>>>> But no is irresponsible, and it's been rated one of the top companies to
>>>> work for. Like Nik's company (I assume), they are looking for top talent
>>>> and wouldn't hire people who are likely to abuse the system. My guess is
>>>> (though I don't know Nik) that his company also has an extremely relaxed
>>>> vacation policy, because it isn't about the time you take, it's about the
>>>> work you accomplish.
>>>>
>>>> -Matt
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Kristina Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These are the sorts of job posts that just make me look forward to
>>>>> switching to a different career... "kegerator" & "beer pong"?
>>>>> I should want to hang out with you outside of work and watch you drink
>>>>> until
>>>>> you puke while listening to loud rock & roll music? (From the tone of
>>>>> the
>>>>> below it seems like you may be doing this during the workday!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly nobody in this awesome company has yet seen their 25th
>>>>> birthday...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/11/2011 3:47 PM, Nik Bonaddio wrote:
>>>>> I'm not a recruiter. Recruiters are lame and have no idea what
>>>>> they're doing. I know exactly what I'm looking for, so I'm
>>>>> posting here.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's start with the boring stuff up front: We're a small,
>>>>> agile, well-trafficked startup in the sports analytics space.
>>>>> We've been covered by TechCrunch, we've been written up in
>>>>> Sports Illustrated, and now we're going to revolutionize the way
>>>>> users consume and engage with sports content. Our founders are
>>>>> ballers, our advisors are even more ballerous, and just wait
>>>>> until you see our product..
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're someone who loves sports and also loves building
>>>>> products, then we're your company. Even if you're not a huge
>>>>> sports fan, feel free to reach out to us - we're more interested
>>>>> in someone who knows how to get stuff done. If you're wondering
>>>>> what kind of people we're like socially, we have a kegerator in
>>>>> our office and our most played artist on iTunes is Animal
>>>>> Collective. You should be able to get our jokes and we should be
>>>>> able to want to hang out with you outside of work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our stack is built on PHP and MySQL, but we're considering
>>>>> moving to Couch or Mongo. What do you suggest? We'd love to
>>>>> know. We have a world-class designer and front-end developer on
>>>>> board, we need to find someone who is comfortable on the PHP
>>>>> backend, taking things from the browser-level all the way down
>>>>> to the DB. We're not looking for someone who is merely good;
>>>>> we're looking for great - '85 Bears great. Lemieux in the 91-92
>>>>> playoffs great. Lemonade and BBQ on a Summer afternoon great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Skillsets:
>>>>>
>>>>> o Excellent PHP skills (should be comfortable building out an
>>>>> application scalable to 100,000 daily uniques)
>>>>> o Knowledgeable of system-wide architecture (setting up
>>>>> version control, release engineering structs, etc.)
>>>>> o Comfortable working in a fast-paced startup setting
>>>>> o Familiarity with beer pong and general precepts of social
>>>>> skill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice to have:
>>>>>
>>>>> o Familiarity with HTML/CSS/jQuery (not totally necessary as
>>>>> we already have a world-class designer and front-end)
>>>>> o Sports fan (big, big plus - let us know what your favorite
>>>>> team is)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What we're not:
>>>>>
>>>>> o Some huge, boring company where you'll have meetings about
>>>>> meetings
>>>>> o A company that works in a space that you could care less
>>>>> about
>>>>> o A startup that values founder's valuations over the future
>>>>> gains of the employees
>>>>> o A company founded by a bunch of suits who can't code Hello
>>>>> World in BASIC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though we're a startup, this is a salary position. We'll
>>>>> shell out for the right employee. There is also a TON of equity
>>>>> involved; you're the third employee and huge part of our future
>>>>> success - we'll take care of you. You should ideally be in NYC,
>>>>> but that won't stop us from moving forward with the right
>>>>> person.
>>>>>
>>>>> To apply, just send us a resume (please send nik at numberfire.com)
>>>>> and we'll go from there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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