NYCPHP Meetup

[Kayra Otaner]

Hi,

My personal opinion is 'real Open Source developers doesn't need cert'. Just like any other
issues, OSS philosophy developed its own unique 'certification way' by means of 'pet projects'. 
Since most of the OSS developers already developing some sort of 'pet projects' for their own,
this indicates what level of knowledge they have. Certifications are for developers who don't have
any reference sites or apps to show, and/or doesn't have education background related to the field
at all. If you're talented and know how to express yourself, guy sitting accross the table on an
inverview will going to notice your talent. If they can't notice your capabilities, you don't even
need to show a certification :-))
I suggest recruitters to look for the ones with pet projects instead of certification.

PS: I don't have pet project(I can't even call it pet project)

Best


Kayra Otaner


--- Jon Baer <jonbaer at jonbaer.net> wrote:
> max goldberg wrote:
> 
> >I think to truly be qualified you need to understand many things beyond
> >syntax, which most people don't get. It seems no one even writes code
> >for high performance and low resource usage any more. Everyone needs 
> >their hand held through the most basic of exercises. I'm not sure if 
> >it's just my opinion and current situation, it just seems like a lot
> >  
> >
> Ive noticed these comments to come from people in their mid-50, early 
> 60's who have spent more than 20 years on C/C++ and have absolutely no 
> faith in high level languages :-)  Just an observation.  
> 
> But I think you are right, the very LAST thing people ever ask when 
> designing a web app today is what kind of resources in terms of memory 
> requirements, scalability, etc ... I think its just a case of the market 
> place that has turned from taking ur time to secure an app to come in, 
> deploy tomorrow, fix bugs later if we need you.  I don't think its a 
> case of not knowing what u are doing because today (vs. yesterday) there 
> are several ways to accomplish one thing, no matter if you are a junior 
> developer or senior architect.  There are things that look pretty and 
> things that were a late night hack to make it work, but who is to 
> decide?  I dont think much has changed, in fact I got an assignment on 
> Saturday for a PHP-based quiz for a site launching on Monday, Id like to 
> think my options were to figure out how well their php.ini was tweeked 
> or how they are setup but its something accomplished last nite for 
> peanuts.  Id like to think something like a PHP+ certificate would help 
> get more work.    
> 
> Thanks for the link, I found it very informative, and enjoy the 
> discussion.  
> 
> - Jon
> 
> 
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